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Comment from: Elenor [Visitor] Email
Bill,

So this idea of innocent until proven guilty is no longer applicable to the media?? Just because another accuses someone, does the media automatically take that as fact? What are the extenuating circumstances? Was she beating him first, or does the media select & quote what facts they want to post? (If he did hurt her it doesn't make it right, violence is unacceptable from either party)I have no Knowledge of this case, but the whole idea of trial by media is completely out of hand, whether in Collin County, Dallas county, or any other county. This is not Afghanistan.

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The Observer Comments:

Of course an arrested person is still proven guilty.

I understand some of the conflicts the press faces - for example:

1. Should the media print the name and picture of the guy next door who was arrested for raping girls in your neighborhood.... or should you not have the right to know it?

2. Should the media report a bank teller who was arrested for embezzlement? Of course the suspect might have a hard time getting a job, if his name is in the paper?

3. Should the media report the story of a teacher who was assaulting kids. Or should it be kept private until the suspect is found guilty? Or until the case was finally appealed?

Were should the 4th estate draw the line when reporting a person is only arrested, not convicted?

This writer does not assume Mr. Ragland was guilty. This Observer did not demand that he be put in prison. What I did write about was that the newspaper though it unsuitable for him to cover Dallas County... so they sent him to Collin County.

Some here might object.

Thank you for your comment.

Bill
12/04/11 @ 16:06
Comment from: Old Sarge [Visitor] Email
"Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" is a catchy phrase that sounds great in print or on television as a disclaimer but the truth is that it is an artificial construct designed to only be applicable in court and then only to the judge and jury.

Certainly the idea doesn't apply to the officer that made the arrest, the intake at the D.A.'s office who accepted the charge, the ADA who is doing the prosecution, or anyone else who develops an opinion based on their knowledge of the events. (Also doesn't apply to the victim of the crime)

The only persons legally required to believe in the presumption of innocence is the trier of facts, either the judge or jury. The rest of us are free to convict in our minds, or excuse in our minds, as we see fit.

Having said that, in this case I don't believe that Mr. Ragland's guilt or innocence, tried or untried, in the writing of his column. Although I often disagree with him I am forced, in fairness, to admit he is a pretty good writer and often makes me re-evaluate my own ideas. I think he should have been left in place, writing his column, until the case was settled and then his position might be evaluated in the light of what is best for the DMN. Just my two cents worth, spend it wisely.
12/05/11 @ 08:45
Comment from: anon [Visitor]
Old Sarge wrote: "I think he should have been left in place, writing his column, until the case was settled and then his position might be evaluated in the light of what is best for the DMN." That is EXACTLY why the Dallas Morning News felt an alleged and charged and arrested wife-beater columnist would do well in Collin County. You made Bill's point exactly. Collin County just may be the Afghanistan of America.
12/07/11 @ 15:22

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