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Comment from: Roach Victim [Visitor] Email
This is horrible! Another person ruined by the malevolence of John Roach Sr.

And, another "win" for the tight nit good old boys of Collin County.

My Prayers are with Judge Wooten.
11/22/11 @ 16:40
Comment from: Collin resident [Visitor] Email
WOW what BS!!!!!! Sad day in Collin County when a good judge is screwed!!!! APPEAL, APPEAL, APPEAL!!!!
11/22/11 @ 16:41
Comment from: In Disbelief!! [Visitor] Email
I have lost all respect for the system and more specifically Collin County!!! Wooten was screwed and I hope she appeals this to the end!!!! Wooten never gave the Cary's a ruling that would help them in their child custody case!! She recussed herself like any good judge would have done. Collin County and Harry White will stop at nothing to make sure they ruin someones life!!So wrong!
11/22/11 @ 16:57
Comment from: Jerry [Visitor] Email
A roach is a roach is a roach can't change those spots, Sad say in Mckinney Law
11/22/11 @ 17:10
Comment from: Disgusted [Visitor] Email
What a disgusting perversion of "justice". I never thought I would hear myself say this, but I am ashamed of what this country has become. I am ashamed of what it means to be an American. Our system of government and justice is hopelessly broken. It is time for another revolution...
11/22/11 @ 17:17
Comment from: Chuck Bloom [Visitor] Email
Courthouse insiders must be awfully proud of themselves in delivering an unjust verdict in a collective of corruption. The trial and verdict does nothing but embarrass Collin County citizens and highlight more of the problems that voters allow permit to continue year after year after year...
People will HAVE to toss them ALL out - the entrenched Republican mindset and the minions who do the bidding for the powers-that-be. Until that happens, more shame will be heaped on the county.
11/22/11 @ 17:17
Comment from: Lisa [Visitor] Email
I knew she was going to be found guilty, because she was innocent. If Judge John Ovard, presiding over the First Administrative Judicial Region, assigns your case, it is certain that Injustice will be served. Criminal cases have only recently been added to the extraterritorial jurisdiction of the First adminstrative Judicial district. The County of Collin has usurped authority over the criminal courts, and are subjecting certain accused citizens under the auspices that the accused have waived their access to the courts, and consented to the adjudication of criminal allegations under the extraterritorial jurisdiction of Ovard and, in this county, The First Administrative Judicial district.
This jurisdiction has been the determining jurisdiction in most family law in the county since 2008. In this court, the accusers are right automatically, unless, within 6 months, the accused convinces the parties otherwise, but this 6 month provision is not disclosed to the accused so the court renders a partial/default judgement against them, but doesn't tell them that either.
Next, the trial comes you have an accused who has had partial
guilt adjudicated against them, presenting a defense under the guise that they are innocent until proven guilty. This is actually still true, but they are already guilty by default of certain issues tried by consent. The jury knows this sometimes, other times
not. So even if the jury believed Wooten was innocent, it is possible that the Jury charge included her guilt on the tried by consent issue. This would preclude the Jury from being aloud to issue a not guilty verdict.

I will tell you this, her attorney knew, as did the prosecution and the judge.

If Ovard is allowed to assign cases that are normally that of criminal court jurisdiction, then it's the end of life in this county as we know it. Will anyone listen?
11/22/11 @ 17:20
Comment from: JST [Visitor] Email
What a shame. Sure glad Roach & Company gone. Just not quick enouch for Judge Wooten. I hope she gets probation.
11/22/11 @ 17:33
Comment from: COLLIN COUNTY ATTORNEY [Visitor] Email
Very sad and very scary. I wish Suzanne strength for the weeks to come.
11/22/11 @ 17:40
Comment from: texann [Visitor] Email
Justice is alive and well in Collin County today, Halleluja! David Cary and Stacy Stine Cary - you are up next, the jig is up! I'm looking forward to your coverage of their convictions as well, Bill. Thank you for all you did to cover this.

PS. Now it's time to take a hard look into the rulings of Judge John McGraw in the Cary custody case. I think he's got some 'splainin to do.
11/22/11 @ 17:44
Comment from: Visitor [Visitor]
Judge Charles, we need you back in the 380th!!!
11/22/11 @ 18:12
Comment from: courthouse wag [Visitor] Email
Those 12 jurors were not selected by anyone named Roach, Milner, Sandoval, or Davis. Those were 12 of your fellow citizens who sat there for two weeks and heard all the evidence and arguments and who made the hard call. Regardless of how you feel about the old regime, you should respect their judgment. The politicians and lawyers in this county should take note.
11/22/11 @ 18:13
Comment from: Prof [Visitor] Email
Thank God! I had to deal with Ms. Wooten during a custody battle a few years ago. It was obvious she is a criminal. Now, if only the state would look into the other custody battles right prior to her being elected judge. I'm certain they would find even more corruption.
11/22/11 @ 18:36
Comment from: clair [Visitor] Email
Now Texas don't let the real gangster get away! The linchpin behind all this is James Stephen Spencer and his time is up!
11/22/11 @ 18:43
Comment from: Concerned Collin County Resident [Visitor] Email
Texann

Did you notice that Judge John McCraw's son-in-law (Keith Gore) represented the Cary's when they were first charged?
11/22/11 @ 18:48
Comment from: Concerned Collin Co Citizen [Visitor] Email
No doubt Texann IS Jennifer Cary. Where were you during this trial? Scared that the evidence of you being a horrible monther would be on display? And that you were playing games by hiring Judge Wooten's campaign treaurer to try to get her recused on your cases? Shame on you!

You yourself will be judged one day for your actions. Enjoy.
11/22/11 @ 19:08
Comment from: Wait a minute... [Visitor] Email
All those who are complaining about corruption, remember that 12 of our own decided her case. I don't know if she's guilty or not, but those 12, after hearing all of the evidence, obviously did.
11/22/11 @ 20:33
Comment from: Restored hope! [Visitor] Email
Justice lights the way in Collin County...finally! Thank you to Judge Russell, Harry White and an attentive and dedicated jury. Job well done at representing the law and guiding the process so that valid legal decisions were made. May the coming holiday season be a bit brighter with the clearing of this particular part of the cloud of corruption in Collin County. Congratulations to Harry White and his team. Mr. White, thank you for representing tax payers with your dedication to a process aimed to clean up wrong-doing in our legal system. Job well done! A most sincere thank you.
11/22/11 @ 20:41
Comment from: Thanks Bill! [Visitor] Email
Thank you for posting updates, Bill. Sad news for Judge Wooten. It's unfortunate that she made some bad choices but she has to be accountable. This is good news for cleaning up the Collin County legal system. Looking to the trails of the additional parties involved with these acts. May justice be as swift and sure in the coming cases. Encouraging news.
11/22/11 @ 20:49
Comment from: wow [Visitor] Email
That charge is the problem. Basically if the jury believed they offered to finance the campaign if she would run, that is bribery. Can't that be appealed? Did the defense agree with that charge?
11/22/11 @ 22:38
Comment from: texann [Visitor] Email
Oh for heavens sake, i am not Jennifer Cary, she has patiently abided all orders, cooperated with every thing asked her including standing by for two long weeks ready to testify. With all the evidence they had, neither side called her. I'm one of her many supporters, obviously.
Back to the penalty discussion. Isn't this where the state brings out the "notice of State's intent to introduce extraneous offenses, unadjudicated offenses, bad acts and punishment evidence" document? Will the witnesses to the bad acts, etc. Be called to testify now?
If they sentence her to varying years of jail time for each of her convictions, will they also decide if they run concurrant or consecutive? If so and they maxout her sentence and make it consecutive, it could be 7 20 year sentences, one 10 year, then whatever count 9 would be. Thats 150 years before the 9th counts sentence. Is that possible?
11/22/11 @ 23:12
Comment from: Interested citizen [Visitor] Email
Too sad! I pray for the Wooten family. She should of taken probation , since she knew she took the money. Dumb.
11/22/11 @ 23:26
Comment from: the term 'criminal lawyer' is redundant (at least in Collin County) [Visitor] Email
Most of these comments make me sick to be honest! Thanks to those of you who have the common sense and are unbiased enough to point out that these 12 jurors were not corrupt. It seems clear to me that the majority of these comments claiming corruption are from attorneys, of which I have only met a handful of ethical ones in collin county. As for the comment that this is very sad and very scary from 'Collin County Attorney' - that is the most uplifting message I have seen! I am glad that you, and hopefully your fellow criminals as well, are 'sad' that your ability to pervert justice may finally be coming to an end! It is about time that you all become 'scared' of facing the consequences of your unethical conduct and stop perpetuating harm against the residents of this county (especially the children who everybody seems to be overlooking in their distress over a judges fate - it takes an attorney to be that perverse). I have no idea if she is guilty of these crimes or not, but I know she harmed a lot of people, especially children with unjust and very obviously ill-arranged judgements. Logic would dictate that the only way this jury could have been corrupt enough to come out with this judgement so quickly and have it not be correct would be if the jury were comprised of her fellow attorneys.

I will have to say that the individual pointing out that Spencer is the biggest crook of all would be spot on - he is a slime ball that should never see the light of day again (put him in solitary, the other felons are far too ethical to risk him influencing them also).
11/23/11 @ 05:50
Comment from: Kim Smith [Visitor] Email
This is despicable. The Collin County Courts are bad enough but keep in mind the 5th. Circuit Court of Appeals isn't any better.

I'm praying for Suzanne and her family.
11/23/11 @ 08:21
Comment from: Collin Dad [Visitor]
The only other campaign Steve Spencer was hired on and the Cary's gave money to, was Keith Gore. The Judge who was "selected" to hear the Cary case was Judge McCraw, Keith Gore's father in law. Then Gore is paid to represent the Cary's. Sounds fishy. The state needs to investigate further. Collin county deserves better.
11/23/11 @ 08:39
I wouldn't be surprised to find James Stephen Spencer (Steve Spencer)making his own comments in this blog, particularly against Jennifer Cary or the system. That's how much of a worm he is! Always living on the fringe so that no one suspects anything until it's too late and your stuck cleaning up the mess he leaves behind!
11/23/11 @ 08:57
Comment from: texann [Visitor] Email
Expounding on my earlier questions regarding the penalty phase of the trial starting Monday,will this be when those subpoenaed judges, including the DA's relunctant wife Jill Willis, will be called to testify? And those connected with Wootens handpicked grand jury? And there's the FBI agents that haven't testified yet. Then there,s all those folks listed as giving her unlawful, cash contributions, mostly Collin attorneys like the former virulent blogger here Paul Key. Is this why the AG says it will need two days to present their penalty evidence, Bill?
11/23/11 @ 09:06
Comment from: collin visitor [Visitor]
I have to say that I can not agree more with the last commentator! Whether Judge Wooten is guilty or not she did harm a lot of families with children with ill-arranged orders! My child is one of those children. I have never heard such twisted ruilings in a custody case that she did in our case. Those 12 jurors would not have come to a guilty verdict if they were not convinced beyond the reasonable doubt. I am happy she is off the bench. I thought she was going to be a better judge at first, but she was just one of those who thought she would teach a lesson to those bad, fighting parents. But where did she put my child in her decision that is my big question here! She will have a lot of time to reflect and find where things went wrong.
11/23/11 @ 09:27
Comment from: Texas Commentator [Visitor] Email
I have not been following this trial. As to whether this individual is truly innocent or not, I did not have the information the jury was accessed to in this trial. I do know that we have a huge corruption and underworld element at play in Collin County, specifically in McKinney, Texas. There is a small group of us within the community that are working at present, behind the scenes, quietly gathering information to finally bring to light, this connection to money laundering from outside our state from known criminals. Criminals who would not hesitate to make known concerned citizens look like they shot themselves, if they revealed their information. This explains why the tax load on the average McKinney homeowner sits in the highest levels in this county that exists in Texas. It also explains why our school system is broken. It also explains why Allen, Texas is now number one in the country as a great place to retire, and McKinney has completedly dropped from the rankings all together. Will this change in the future....no it will not; especially since we have extended our city council terms to four years. We now have eight years in the decline of our great city of McKinney, Texas. I feel so blessed in having in place, plans to retire outside of Collin County, Texas.
11/23/11 @ 10:51
Comment from: Ivy rainingonyou [Visitor] Email
What is wrong with you people? Save a couple comments, these responses are so void of free thought that they could be automated. It's no surprise this county was so quickly overtaken by corruption.

Could you all be a little less obvious in your comments that you are advocating  an agenda?

A women, mother, daughter and Judge was questionably found guilty today in a court that could sentence her to life in prison! Take a moment and imagine youThere are wheels within wheels in this county. Each one of you, Individually, is responsible for looking into the direction your group's actions are taking you or you'll find out too late that your heading for a cliff!

For those of you who might liken your efforts to that of Dave Cary et al. in supporting New Candidates for election to replace the most corrupt of the current sitting judges, I hope what happened today teaches you something. 1. These people know everything. 2. Their patience in the game of corruption knows no end. 3. No one in this county has enough money or power to challenge them and woe be anyone who dares try 3. We the people are left alone to slay this beast and employing local schemes to elect new judges will not do it.
If you all would spend the time and resources on supporting a legal and aggressive plan to take we might have a chance to survive. Organizing behind another politician who wants to mask thier pursuit of office behind Justice is a waste, and it's embarrassing that you all fall for that. I still cant believe certain people would risk Legal Interferance and Organized criminal activity to conspire to ....... Get another person reelected. What a waste.
11/23/11 @ 11:06
Comment from: PM [Visitor] Email
This will not be pleasant for Wooten's enemies-who have only produced and funded this spectacle so as to try to keep the light off of them...I'm writing about my experiences and naming every name I can and not until I've gone through every similar 5th District decision(obvs, my case went to appeal and you can imagine my surprise at finding other corrupted decisions).

I just wanted a fair custody proceeding in the near future, really. After the abuses I faced in the 380th, and now seeing the person who gave me a small amount of hope for a fair trial...I can't even type this anymore. It's one thing to feel helpless and entirely another to feel helpless and realize there is no hope.

My child is undeservedly stretched even more thin than I...that's the worst thing...always having that in mind...every god damned day, having that in mind...
11/23/11 @ 12:14
Comment from: COLLIN COUNTY ATTORNEY [Visitor] Email
During the 2008 campaign, anyone could have defeated Judge Charles Sandoval. He had the lowest score on record in a judicial evaluation poll, he was disrespectful to the attorneys,rude and condescending to the actual parties/litigants, and did not follow the laws.

He had damaged so many families in the family courts and sided wtih the DAs office so many times, that he drew an opponent. This is not a vindication for Sandoval - quite the opposite. If he tries to run again, he will lose again because I and other attorneys refuse to stand by and watch him verbally chastize and humiliated our clients at their most desperate hour. He is a bully and I do not know a singe litigant who has been before thim that found him to be fair or professional - maybe wth the exception of Dave Cary's ex-wife. But he won't be a judge again. And you don't want him to be a judge again.
11/23/11 @ 12:27
Comment from: COLLIN COUNTY ATTORNEY [Visitor] Email
During the 2008 campaign, anyone could have defeated Judge Charles Sandoval. He had the lowest score on record in a judicial evaluation poll, he was disrespectful to the attorneys,rude and condescending to the actual parties/litigants, and did not follow the laws.

He had damaged so many families in the family courts and sided wtih the DAs office so many times, that he drew an opponent. This is not a vindication for Sandoval - quite the opposite. If he tries to run again, he will lose again because I and other attorneys refuse to stand by and watch him verbally chastize and humiliated our clients at their most desperate hour. He is a bully and I do not know a singe litigant who has been before thim that found him to be fair or professional - maybe wth the exception of Dave Cary's ex-wife. But he won't be a judge again. You don't want to be one of those litigants crying in the hallway wondering what you did wrong to have your kid taken away from you. And you don't want him to be a judge again.
11/23/11 @ 12:32
Comment from: sandra perrenot [Visitor] Email · http://visitor
Is the law ever going to get Stephen Spencer? He is an admitted child molester and he never has been put in the pen. Everyone keeps letting the slime go free so he can con someone else with his phony lawyer want-a-be-persona. When will he ever be tried and made to pay for all the people he has hurt!!!
11/23/11 @ 12:57
Comment from: Passionate Mom [Visitor] Email
Back down -- Concerned Collin County Resident. I fear your thinking has been led astray. Jennifer Cary has been a loving dedicated mother whose only crime is passionately pursuing the return of her daughters. Over the past year, one of her daughters nearly lost her life and Jennifer put aside career and personal life to be by her daughter’s side every possible moment she was allowed and for each surgery. This poor young girl had to be separated from the loving care of her mother during her home recovery at the most trying time of her life. Clearly by calling Jennifer a “horrible mother” you know nothing of this woman and her ability to be a parent.
Let’s not victimize the victim here. And let us not forget the time this family has lost and the hardships they’ve endured. “Man up” and stop “passing the buck” of responsibility. It’s not about politics; it’s about people, tax payers, the folks this system is intended to serve. Judge Wooten was found guilty. A jury reviewed the evidence and concluded that she broke laws. Jennifer Cary had NOTHING to do with Judge Wooten’s choices or Stacy and David Cary’s power seeking, evil intentions. Concerned Collin County Resident, tread carefully, my friend, or risk revealing your ignorance. There’s a load of quiet contingents that are mad as hell and we’re not going to take it anymore. Let this be the start of raising the legal standards in Collin County for all those involved. Let the change begin here and spread far and wide.
11/23/11 @ 13:30
Comment from: Lisa [Visitor] Email
Thanks, Passionate Mom. I don’t know all the details that you must, but I’m astounded at the anger and enmity that this case has brought out. I don’t know any of these principals, but I do know some of those who are vehemently defending this judge. And, based on the information that has come out in the trial as well as the guilty on all counts judgment made by a jury of our peers, I, too, am appalled at what has happened to our legal system in Collin County.
Can I be frank here? I’m amazed at the stupidity of some “credible” politically active people in this county who have been actively supporting Judge Wooten and castigating anyone who, in trying to do the job we elected them to do, has challenged Judge Wooten’s honesty and fitness for such a position. It seems that these “credible” people did not know the judge at all, did they? I only hope they didn’t. I would much prefer to think of them as gullible and stupid than as dishonest (and perhaps stupid?) as Judge Wooten has been proven to be.
I’m not surprised that Judge Wooten initially tried to run for this office as a Democrat. The tactics that were used by this judge to stop or stall or divert the accusations against her remind me of the tactics that are routinely used by the Democratic Party – how else did Obama get elected? All Democrats are not demons, but also, as this case has proven, all Republicans are not smart. We have a responsibility, as the majority party in Collin County, to be better than this.
We must select our candidates based on what we know (I mean, really know) about them, not simply based on not liking the current office holder. We must make it OK to run against a current office-holder. How can we enjoy a spirited, fair, friendly game of football and not be able to handle a spirited, fair, friendly political campaign? We must know that our candidate is a “stand-up guy” – which means if caught doing stupid things they stand up, accept responsibility, resign and save us the money it costs us to prove their culpability in court. And we can also insist that the non-elected politically active citizens hold their fire until they know what they are talking about. We must get the “lawyering” out of politics. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. We must insist our politicians do the morally correct thing, not just the “legal” thing.
This whole situation disgusts me. I’m disgusted by Judge Wooten’s dishonesty and/or stupidity. I’m disgusted by those who would use our judicial system for their personal gain. And I’m particularly disgusted by those politicians and politically active persons who either didn’t know – and should have, or did know/suspect, and turned their heads. Shame on you! The smart thing to do is keep your mouth shut until all the facts come out. You have defamed others while protecting a person unworthy of your support. By doing so, you have forever tainted the respect that I had for you. You shoulda known better. I now know that you don’t.
11/23/11 @ 17:06
Comment from: Texas Commentator [Visitor] Email
As I mentioned in my previous posting on this thread, McKinney, Texas ranks right up there with Chicago when it comes to corruption and money laundering via "The Good-Olde' Boy System" in place in McKinney, Texas. One well known high profile Stockbroker in our community ranks right up there in ripping off the McKinney Taxpayers, as well as his own clients. Of course having a mate in high places in city politics helps a great deal in accomplishing unworthy goals. If you are an investor with your life savings in a local resident who is a Stockbroker, it would be to your benefit to type their name on the following link. After doing such, I have no doubt you will immediatedly remove your money from their keeping: http://brokercheck.finra.org
11/23/11 @ 20:10
Comment from: Who me? [Visitor] Email
Not sure if the conviction was on the facts or on perception. It sounds like the judge and the Carys were conned by a street smart pedophile. The conviction is more about her being naive in understanding the rules of elections and being manipulated by Spencer. I don't understand how she was convicted when she didn't do anything to favor the Carys.

My opinion is based off what I have read here and unless I'm missing something material, I believe she is innocent.
11/24/11 @ 09:36
Comment from: anonymous [Visitor] Email
I am scared to live in Collin County because it is obviously profit before people. This case proved that, but we knew it anyway.

Democrat/Republican/Libertarian - doesn't matter - all corruption and money-oriented. Our system is failing us and we need a new one. One that can honestly and inherently keep us focused on people and their well-being.

Money truly is the root of all evil.
11/24/11 @ 13:29
Comment from: courthouse wag [Visitor] Email
A judge convicted of (or who receives deferred adjudication for) a felony (or a misdemeanor involving official misconduct) is automatically removed from office. Tex. Gov't Code § 33.038. If the judge appeals the conviction, the judge is suspended without pay pending final resolution of the appeal. Tex. Gov't Code § 33.037.
11/24/11 @ 17:39
Comment from: lost in the suburbs [Visitor] Email
Texann & Collin Dad

I think the 2 of you are the only ones noticing the truly interesting connections in this case.

Would love to talk off line...
11/25/11 @ 06:18
Comment from: Questionable Verdict [Visitor]
The Jurors decided on a guilty verdict based on the evidence. Correction - based on the evidence the State wanted them to hear. Our court systems are not always right. Ever heard of the Innocence Project? They restore justice and exonerate the wrongly convicted. Convictions that were based on what the State wanted the Jurors to hear and often withheld evidence. The only problem is that there is not any DNA in this case to prove that Judge Wooten is innocent, but you can bet that the State did withhold evidence that could have been used to prove that Judge Wooten is innocent. I hope that the Jurors will always wonder – did we hear all of the evidence, did we convict an innocent person? The State doesn’t care, they got the guilty verdict they wanted, and the Jurors were their pawns to make it happen.
11/25/11 @ 11:52
Comment from: Another Courthouse Interested [Visitor] Email
Bill has done a good job of reporting on this case from the beginning. There is information that alot of people here don't remember or didn't read about which would throw serious doubt into this conviction and the purpose behind the prosecution. Judge Sandoval has the worst reputation among all judges in Collin County. He earned that reputation and it is little wonder that many in the public would want him off the bench. But he was the establishment's boy. The AG in his closing arguments said several times that Wooten's crime was that she chose to run for the bench. That tells you alot about what the prosecution was about.

Let's say that the Cary's wanted someone, anyone to beat Sandoval. They apparently hired Spencer to do some background work and recruit someone who could defeat him. There was no proof presented that Wooten knew anything was shady between the Cary's and Spencer. There was no evidence, no phone records, no bank records, proving that she received any of the funds that the Cary's gave to Spencer. It is all pure speculation and innuendo. And, if they did something illegal, which the AG still hasn't proved in my opinion, there is more than reasonable doubt that Wooten knew anything was going on between Spencer and the Cary's.

If Spencer and the Cary's did do something illegal, this still is not enough to convict Wooten of being involved. The nail that would have proven her being involved in an illegal scheme would have been her issuing a favorable ruling in the Cary case. The AG said in closing that they didn't have to prove she gave any ruling - because they didn't and couldn't prove it. She never ruled on that case.

The AG's argument was simply that Spencer and the Cary's violated the law based on the large sums of money that went to Spencer from the Cary's. Sounded to me like Spencer found someone with a great deal of money who was willing to pay him what he wanted. What's illegal about that? Then, the AG ties Wooten in by saying she must have known? But, the AG couldn't prove illegal use of Spencer's payments for Wooten, nor that she knew anything illegal was going on.

This seems alot like trying to prosecute someone for theft just because they unknowing purchase a product from a business. Let's say that you hired a contractor to remodel your home. The contractor advises you on what you need to do to get your desired home. You reach an agreement on the work and pay needed to get it done. The contractor finishes the work, submits his final bill, and you pay him. So far, all is good. The work was well done and you got what you wanted. Then, you learn that the police are filing criminal charges against the contractor for some shady dealings to get the materials he used on your home. Some of the materials may have been stolen. Are you guilty of the theft just because you hired the contractor and you didn't know he may have been involved in anything illegal? Are we all going to have to fear every time we hire someone to do work for us?

They are now set to try the clerks for allegedly showing that employees were at work on the time sheets when those employees were not actually at work. Allegedly, employee records were manipulated to get them paid when they took time off. The facts of this indictment are basically just like D.A. John Roach's incentive plan for his Assistant D.A.'s. Roach admitted to the County Commissioners that he had manipulated time sheets to show employees were at work, when they actually were not there. Why isn't he under indictment? Oh, I forgot, he was the one who got the indictments.
11/25/11 @ 13:59
Comment from: PM [Visitor] Email
@Who me?: Agreed. I'm interested in some of the testimony, too...very curious. I'm not so convinced Spencer is a con artist if he was "figured out" so easily. Doesn't work that way no matter how much the theatrics present it as such.

Who will take over for Wooten in the interim? Are there ANY judges in Collin Co. not on the Roach-Sandoval(and others that will remain nameless for now) pep squad? In case anyone need move for transfer...

Hope Wooten fights this, as far as it need go.
11/25/11 @ 16:33
Comment from: WOOTEN SUPPORTER [Visitor] Email
Comment for: Collin Dad-
Just an FYI, Spencer has also helped Judge Scott Becker on his campaign as well. Guess we need to investigate everyone. It just might prove that Judge Wooten didn't do anything wrong. You CAN NOT control the actions of others. She thought that he had the money to pay for adds, and there is NOTHING wrong with TURNKEY Management. All the Judges are scared that Judge Wooten would do the right thing and turn the other Judges in for all the wrong doing they are doing. I hope and pray that Judge Wooten is able to Appeal this and get all this over turned. WE ARE ALL HERE FOR YOU JUDGE SUZANNE WOOTEN, WE LOVE YOU!!!!
11/25/11 @ 19:29
Comment from: Overwind [Visitor] Email
While I had some inside information as to Judge Wootens election, I still believe she was a MAJOR improvement over her predecessor. Look at his record of how many women he sided for. That should tell you everything you need to know about him. No one knows about how the federal reimbursment program and how many Judges receive what amounts to kick backs. I have asked the author of this blog to look into it, but I guess it's just not that dramatic for him. Judge Wooten's election was an attempt to reform the family court system here and her conviction was a set back for everyone, past, present and future. Ever wonder why family court judges make their decisions without a jury. It's because they can get away with it and there decisions are next to impossible to overturn. Who am I kidding, they are impossible to overturn. This corruption need to be stopped, but it will continue until the people of Collin County wake up. The future of your sons and daughters depends on it.
11/25/11 @ 22:36
Comment from: Watching [Visitor] Email
Finally reading posts that actually get it.This who prosecution was nothing but a political witch hunt.The jurors while not corrupt were pawns in a larger scheme.Roach Sr is probably sharpening his skies in Red Rivef ,New Mexico while chuckeling at destroying another life.Sandoval has succeeded in ruining the life of another family.Chris Milner will move his Medicine show to the next village to destroy more lives.Milner loaded the bullets and Harry White pulled the trigger.If the AG only had to prove that Wooten took money then ran for office,why did it take them so long?The Cary case is a sad side effect of a political struggle and Judge Wooten is collateral damage to this battle.If you care to research look at the Sheriff in Dallas whose political career was destroyed by the same thugs.History will reflect that the Roach regime was one driven by an uncontrolled ego.An ego that surrounded himself with evil people willing to do his bidding .Many people destroyed in this carnage will NEVER recover.So those who are clapping and applauding the demise of Suzanne Wooten keep clapping because maybe it will help was ease your conscience of the people destroyed by egotistical evil.
11/25/11 @ 22:52
Many of these comments would all be well and fine it there wasn't a convicted felon in the center of all the controversy! Anyone who has ever worked with Steve Spencer knows that the only thing he cares about is making people around him believe that he is someone important who can "make things happen" legal or illegal.
11/26/11 @ 15:40
Comment from: David Wallace [Visitor]
The most corrupt courthouse in Texas, I have suspected this for quite some time. This is what happens when you have one party dominating.. Lived and paid property tax in Collin co. for 25 yrs, behoves me to even report for jury duty and breathe the corrupt air in McKinney
11/26/11 @ 17:54
Comment from: Lisa [Visitor] Email
Guess Dallas County, as well as Travis County, are corrupt as well, as those counties are dominated by one party, also. Or would that just be counties dominated by Repubs and not Demos? hmmmmm....
11/27/11 @ 01:29
Comment from: riap64 [Visitor] Email · http://visitor
Does anyone know if the slime spencer will be tried for anything or did he go scott-free because of his testimony? Would really like to know if there are any charges still out there against him?
11/27/11 @ 14:44
Comment from: Michael Biggs [Visitor] Email
I have heard via the grapevine that she will get 10 years probation and give up her right to appeal. If I got convicted of 9 felony charges and got an offer of probation I would do it in a heart beat.
11/28/11 @ 09:55
Comment from: z [Visitor] Email
Look People. She admitted to her charges. OMG, don't believe everything you see. It is not always as it seems.
11/28/11 @ 11:19
Comment from: texann [Visitor] Email
The AG has said he will prosecute all three remaining accused including Spencer. He may have taken the immunity for his testimony, but he turned around and did not cooperate and lied on the stand - it would appear he blew the immunity deal. Therefore they will proceed to prosecution. I think both sides would agree that it's a good thing! When he is convicted, with his record, it seems impossible he would get probation. FYI - this is all conjecture on my part, I have no inside information so chillax with the attacks that I am the ex wife, Harry White, Judge Russell, Jesus or Barack Obama. I am not anyone connected to the case, am not politically active nor a lawyer.
11/28/11 @ 11:55
Comment from: texann [Visitor] Email
lost in suburbs

I can tell you really know what's going on around here. It was obvious from your first post. I know the truth about this whole mishegas we call the Collin County justice system. Call me and I will set you straight. And I'm not just saying that either. I really mean it. Unlike "some" people around here.
12/04/11 @ 14:46
Comment from: Susan Euson [Visitor] Email
Please stop trying to make Suzanne Wooten into Joan of Arc! Unlike most of you, I had upclose and personal knowledge of her for 18 months because she represented my ex husband in our simple divorce case. She was inept and unscrupulious, never following the rules of the law. From sneaking around behind our backs (myself and my attny) talking to the Judge, failing to comply with repeated Discovery requests and acting in an incompetent manner, dragging out the process longer than necessary so she could pocket maximum legal fees not to mention her arrogance pretty much describes her morals. In short she is stupid! Plain and simple. Thank goodness she wasnt on the bench long enough to affect too many lives. I find it quite humorous that her lack of due dilligence, stupidity and inflated ego is what did her in!
12/04/11 @ 19:00
Comment from: texann [Visitor] Email
Susan Euson: Isn't your case from 2003? It's good to see someone like me who can hold a grudge. Let's get together and "talk" about "it".
12/05/11 @ 18:36
Comment from: Hmmm..... RESPONSE TO SUSAN EUSON [Visitor] Email
Editor: Paragraph deleted. Please this is the wrong place for commenters to personally attack each other.... especially about a litigant.

I tried to send you an email, but the address was not real. I sent you the above:

Please, I am asking you to tone down the personal attacks. I have deleted portions of two of your comments.

Can we keep us all to the principle of 'common courtesy'?

Thank you,

Bill


As for Texann... if you aren't Jenifer Carey, then why such the interst in this case. We know its you, just come forward... We know you are right in the middle of all this mess... No More Secrets Here.
12/08/11 @ 12:28
Comment from: Susan Euson [Visitor] Email
[editor deleted comment] Please stop grinding your own resentments. Can not everyone discuss issues and remain courteously? Thank you

Bill

12/09/11 @ 13:53
Comment from: Redeemed [Visitor] Email
Based upon all the information that was disclosed it is apparent that the real criminal has not been brought to justice. Mr. Spencer has left a trail of disaster throughout the state of Texas. The 18 counts of misconduct, bad acts and judgements only scratch the surface of his many criminal acts. Having been the victim of one of his scams not listed, one can only hope that justice will be served soon. There are several other innocent citizens that have been robbed of their reputation and life savings all the while Mr. Spencer is out living it up. I look forward to justice being served!
12/27/11 @ 04:34
Comment from: Robert Ward [Visitor] Email
If Judge Wooten was guilty, then a number of other judges are guilty of violations of law. One particular judge doctored a transcript of a hearing. This judge has also ruled in favor of the DAs office in certain cases that has raised many questions. Another judge has allowed the DAs office to be prejudical in some cases.
In particular, the citizens of Collin County are doing a good job of letting Collin County be the most corrupt justice system in Texas. Collin County's Republican majority is getting what it wants, a pure white county that runs the poor out as soon as it can.
02/09/12 @ 13:12
What can citizens do about corrupt judges and "the corrupt good old boy network of the corrupt American Justice System"? the biggest organized crime group are "attorney's, judges, law enforcement and while citizens are allowed to hire an attorney or even told they have to hire an attorney to report criminal acts; the reality is that attorney's don'twork for their clients; they work for the Judges; and whenever attorney's, judges and law enforcement are involved in criminal enterprises; then, the FBI nor any other government agency does anything about it because they all work together or need the Judges. So, you said that "the citizens are letting this corrupt happen." I disagree. Citizens have no rights when it comes to trying to expose "the game of the corrupt american justice system because the FBI, and all other government agencies prevent citizens from even reporting such corrupt Judges, attorney's, and law enforcement agents". tell us; what can citizens do. Even the media writes about whats' of court records but it's Judges and attorney's who falsify court documents or other public records. that prevents the media from reporting the truth when the media chooses to report what's of public record without mentioning the fact that too often "what's of public record is often times fraud by attorney's, judges and others with the power and control of what's made of public records".
04/08/12 @ 00:50
In 2010; Judge Lewis also removed David Haynes attorney's testimony of the "DA's renigging on a 1999 plea agreement". Judge Lewis and Judge Nathan White should be investigated on their involvement in Steven Mark Olschwanger and several attorney's criminal enterprise tied to drug money launder, Amy Ralston Pofahl's money laundering enterprise schemes from 1994 to 2011 tied to FBI agents, law enforcement agents, and others. There's no such thing as justice anymore because there is far too much corruption within the courts and by attorney's covering up for other corrupt attorney's criminal acts.
04/08/12 @ 00:56

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