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Comment from: Scot Walker [Visitor] Email
"Except for in Plano, which is a long time member of DART, Collin County's political and business leaders don't seem to have the political will nor the vision to provide their citizens with a mass transit solution."

And those are the political leaders getting elected by the citizens - Democracy in action.

A big reason Plano is going to have a $26 million dollar deficit next year and Frisco, Allen, McKinney, Fairview will not is because Plano gives ~$59 million to DART every year and those other cities use that money for recreation and parks and libraries and economic incentive.

The reason why DART cut back bus service in Plano is because of little demand, according to DART.

"What's the difference in the transit needs of Collin, Grayson, and Denton Counties? Very little."

Except for the 36,000 students who go to University of North Texas.
10/12/09 @ 11:01
Comment from: Robin Hill [Visitor] Email
Could we determine how many of those Allen and McKinney folks come down to utilize Plano's stop for the Dart rail? That's a great way for those cities to save funding for their projects when Plano is footing the bill for a rail they didn't want.
10/19/09 @ 14:13
Comment from: Scot Walker [Visitor] Email
Robin,

There are approximately 800 parking spaces at the Parker Road Station in Plano. Estimates are that about half of them are from outside of Plano, so around 400 cars, which is a tiny, tiny drop in the bucket.

That's the whole problem with DART in Plano - few people actually use the thing, certainly not enough to justify the ~$59 million cost.

But the people in those 400 cars might be shopping in Plano, so they might be paying sales tax that goes to DART.

The suburbs are subsidizing Dallas' public transportation. Plano isn't getting anywhere near ~$59 million worth of service from DART. Consider that Denton County spends $8.6 million to cover over 660,000 people with bus service that is a lot more extensive than what Plano is getting for ~$59 million from DART.
10/20/09 @ 08:07
Comment from: Scot Walker [Visitor] Email
Glad I didn't take DART to Fair Park this last Saturday. The DMN has reports about how people who took the new Green line to Fair Park missed 1-2 quarters of the football game because it took DART 2-3 hours to go 5 miles.

10/21/09 @ 15:40
Comment from: Bob Ward [Visitor] Email
It is time to put a full rush agenda on the Collin County commissioners to get rail moving in Collin County.
We can not wait for Dart to serve McKinney. We must do as Denton has done but go one step further and join Grayson County to plan and start implementing a program for both counties. Then we need to join Denton to establish a line to DFW through Denton or tail off their line to Carrollton. We can do this and it has to start now.
11/11/09 @ 17:32
Comment from: Bob Ward [Visitor] Email
In regards to some of the comments above, non are true.
Plano voted twice to stay in DART and are very pleased with the results.
Rail is the future of transportation in the future. Just go to Europe and find out how good it can be.
In fifty years, rail will link Texas from East to West and North to South.
Plano is investing in its future and is smart to do so. Cudos to former mayor Pat Evans and those who preceded her for their support of DART and the future.
By the way, if you think DART is not used, try riding it any day or evening until about 10PM.
What happened at the Fair on TU-OK weekend was to be expected. All of those 40,000 who tried to ride it believed in it. Just shows how people do want it.
11/11/09 @ 17:37
Comment from: Andrew Krummenacher [Visitor] Email
I agree with Bob Ward. I'm a college student in grayson county who graduated from Wylie where my parents still live. Almost half of the students at my school come from the Collin County area and the drive on 75 to get to anything to do for fun is a pain. The rail line between Sherman and Plano is unused so why can't Grayson and Collin County just buy and old diesel engine, attach an old passenger car, and provide weekend regional rail service between Sherman and the Plano DART station? I'm also a member of the Choctaw Nation and it seems like the Nation could be brought on board if the train service went up to Durant. It might be cheaper for the Nation to provide free train tickets from Plano to Durant than to operate all of those tour buses up and down 75 all weekend without charge. The Nation could still provide bus service from their current pick up points around the Metroplex but then only drive to Plano; from where the weekend casino crowd would hop on the train bound for Choctaw!
01/02/10 @ 12:13

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